Applicant Tips and Advice, a Comprehensive Guide
So you're trying to get into CLAW, and want to know how its done. You've seen lots of us around Thelanis, maybe grouped with some of our members and liked what you saw... you've got the itch to see what we're all about. New to the forums, perhaps still a bit sketchy on the application process, and wondering if there's some sort of trick or test to getting in... this thread is designed to clear all those things up, and make you CLAW-some!
Okay, that was a bit cheesy, I admit.
Part 1: Applying - the general requirements for CLAW admission.
1. You need to read our charter! Yes, really! It talks about what we expect out of you. Some of the rules for getting in are a little dated for the DDO branch of the guild, and we're slightly less formal, but the general ideas still apply.
EDIT (as of April 12/2012):
1. Each applicant has to have their application up for two weeks before they can be guilded.
2. Each applicant must now have two sponsors.
Also read our guild Raid/epic etiquette thread here: Loot Guidelines If you don't agree with it, you may not fit in here well.
2. You need to fill out an application! But filling it out isn't enough, you need to do it correctly!
3. You need to get a sponsor! More on this in the next part.
Part 2: Being an Applicant - or: what next?
You need to get a sponsor, which means contacting our members and getting into groups with them. This requires some work on your part, but... hey, it's more likely that you came to us! Trust us that the work is well worth the membership, though.
Firstly, your application gets posted to this recruitment forum.
How to contact our members:
You need to advertise a bit, first of all.
Go to Hello Thread and post a general hello to get people's attention . Post your toon's names/classes/levels... and maybe your play times. Some members use this thread as a convenient way to find applicants they are interested in versus those that may be, while perhaps nice people, an awkward choice to try to group with due to level and/or timezone restraints. This thread, on top of your application thread, are the first two tools at your disposal within these forums. Yes, you've already posted your toons in the application thread, but not everyone combs through the large list of threads when we get a lot of applicants. They check the convenient all-applicants-in-1 thread.
That's probably your most useful tool, overall. It's almost like being in guild chat. In your DDO client, type /joinchannel clawchat into the general tab. It will assign userchat1 to the clawchat channel. You can type /uc1 or just /1 to send things to that channel. The character that joins this channel maintains a channel connection even if you log out. You have to rejoin if you TR your character though.
Lots of applicants ask us if anything is going on there, and lots of guild members look there first to get help with quests. Lots of stuff going on in CLAW Chat, definitely. Best way to meet us and other applicants.
As previously mentioned, some people will say "give me a shout if you see my toons on line" or something along those lines. Don't look a gift opportunity in the mouth. It's a chance to meet someone, and maybe some others that tag along with them. Add those folks to your friends list, or contact them here in the forums, or whatever. Gets your foot in the door, maybe.
If you ask someone in game if they want to group up, and they don't respond right away, don't stress about it. They might be busy. They might be AFK. They might be getting their arses kicked by elite flesh renders. Don't pester... just assume there was a reason, and move on to another opportunity.
Yes, these events are usually for full members, first, but we do try to fit in applicants when we can, and we often end up with multiple full groups on popular runs.
If you join a raid event, you might find yourself involved with 11 CLAW members at once! This dramatically increases your exposure to people that might sponsor you.
Applicants are encouraged to sign up for Raids and other events. It is a great way for you to meet members and allow us to get a feel for the cut of your jib. If you are declined membership to the guild, you will not be able to sign up for Raids. If you see one you may want to join, make note of the time and observe CLAWchat to see if there is a spot to be filled- please don't spam looking for invites. Understand also that if you have been denied guilding, Raid leaders may not want to take you on their run- you were denied membership for a reason after-all.
Hook up with them in CLAW Chat. These people might become a member before you, and after their 30-day probate period, they're free to sponsor you if no other sponsor presents themselves sooner.
Also, multiple applicants are attractive groups for our members to join. Band together, and you will thrive.
What do do when and after you group with us:
1. Mention that you are an applicant! Our members have a hard time remembering all the different people that are applying... and since members also use clawchat regularly, we might assume you're in the guild already and not notice your lack of claw tags.
2. Tell our members that you'd appreciate feedback in your application thread! It often encourages other members to seek you out afterwards.
3. Write down the names of people you group with, and if they don't say anything in your application thread, let us know that you grouped with them anyway, and how it went.
4. Use a microphone if you can. It helps put a voice to the name, and lets your personality stand out from the wall of text that we are otherwise used to seeing. It certainly can't hurt the odds that you will be noticed and remembered, at least. If you don't have a mic, do type some things in party chat and stay communicative, even if it's just status updates on how you're doing in the quest. No one remembers to watch a quiet applicant, and then you get no feedback in your application thread (and that's bad). If you can, try saying/typing something insightful, like asking questions about the guild that show how interested you are in us.
5. Use proper manners. You should probably avoid using a lot of strong language, to be safe. Thank our members for grouping with you. Being polite never hurts!
6. Try to play on a consistent schedule, even temporarily. This isn't always easy for everyone, but it increases the chances of grouping with the same small cluster of the guild repeatedly, and they will remember you and get to like you being around after a while. It's a good way to draw a sponsor out of a small group of new friends in the guild, provided the people you are grouping with are allowed to sponsor someone.
7. Be patient! It's not uncommon for someone to get in after waiting a month or more. Some of the process of getting in groups with the right people, at the right levels, at the right times... well, as you can see there are a lot of variables, so there's a healthy element of luck to this. Sometimes it takes very little time, and sometimes it takes a while. Patience for the long run gets you a guild... your faithful DDO family... for the long run, should you choose to stay.
Part 3: So You've Found your Sponsors - time for guilding and entering the 30-day probate period
The main work is behind you, but it's not quite over, yet. There are some things you should know about the remainder of your application process.
You now undergo a 30-day trial as a probationary member. Be on your best behavior, and all that. Some parting tips for this period:
1. Thank your sponsors for choosing you! Members only get to sponsor one person per 30-days, and you were that choice!
2. Ensure all your toons are in the guild roster so you can get guild invites for them from an officer in- game. Alts will only be tagged once they have been verified by an officer.
3. Group with your sponsors whenever you can, and ask them things if you have questions. They want you in the guild, so they will help you adapt to your membership.
4. Be as active as possible. We need to see you to evaluate your continued membership here. Browse the forums, sign up for events if possible, talk in chat, talk in clawchat, get onto Mumble (free)... if you aren't visible enough, your probationary period can be extended.
Now that you have read this, click the application button at the bottom to fill out an
App! Be sure to read the charter.